Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Dan Hannan can never serve on the Conservative front bench

Cranmer exhorts his readers and communicants to watch the above video, sent courtesy of Tory Bear, in which Daniel Hannan MEP makes a most excellent speech to the gathered faithful at the Conservative Party’s Spring Conference in Cheltenham.

He may speak from the prestigious conference platform, but he will never serve on the Conservative front bench. This is the unalterable judgement of David Cameron as punishment for Mr Hannan’s membership of ‘Better Off Out’, which is, of course, an ideological heresy.

Why is a talented politician of learning, knowledge, conviction, eloquence, passion, charisma and such a love of Shakespeare able to address a Conservative Party conference, and yet is barred in perpetuity from serving on the Conservative front bench simply by virtue of his membership of a club which happens to believe that the UK is better off out of the EU; a view, incidentally, which is shared by the majority of members of the Conservative Party if not the majority of the population of the country?

In what sense are we ‘better off in’ the euro, the EPP, the CAP, the CFP, the Lisbon Treaty, the ECHR?

Yet Conservative politicians who defy the (present) Party line in their articulation of this pro-EU dogma do so with impunity.

While Mr Hannan is (amongst others) inexplicably and unjustly exiled in perpetuity.

Unless, of course, as Plato observed, the political conference is just pure sophistry. And ‘ever closer union’ is really the covert orthodoxy.


Blogger Rebel Saint said...

I'm standing and applauding.

But as you correctly point out, such learning, knowledge, conviction, eloquence, passion, charisma & patriotism has resulted in his excommunication from any conservative government. Which is why i am forced to vote UKIP in June & the BNP in 2010.

28 April 2009 at 09:37  
Blogger John Woolman said...

May ask I your Grace which particular part of the ECHR we might be better off out of? Not, I trust, Article 9. ("Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.
Freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs shall be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society in the interests of public safety, for the protection of public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others".

This Convention right is given particular emphasis in the S.13 of the Human Rights Act 1998.

Of course His grace will be aware that ECHR was promulgated in 1950, well before the EEC was established in 1957.

That being said, I entirely agree that we would be better off out on most of our European Union entanglements. The ECHR isn't one of them.

28 April 2009 at 09:46  
Blogger John M Ward said...

Although I take the point raised here, I am one of those who recognise the "pegs and holes" analogy, and realise that Dan the Man is "better off in" the EU than anywhere else, as long as this nation is a part of that outfit.

Should that change, then he could be usefully deployed elsewhere — and, of course, the fact that we are out (presumably as a result of a Conservative Government's action) would mean that the world had changed and he would be welcome on the front bench.

At that time, and in those circumstances, that would become his rightful home; but in the meantime we need him at Brussels and Strasbourg far more than as one of hundreds in the House of Commons.

28 April 2009 at 09:50  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Uk politics has a very usefull habit of not being rash , more so than the church .

Dan Hannah did a very good speech and there is you tube footage of him speaking to the freedom association ,he pinned the mechanism of democracy well and blew out of the water a number of labour lies about beaurocratic control being used to replace it.

like many radicals they often speak , powerfully but can be so new that they are rejected as the rest of the train catches up.

david cameron has spent a lot of time , with other cabinet members , putting together some of the polices , in one sense he is new conservatism and this project is what i think is needed.

besides Dan may do far more good in brussels than he could do in the UK , if any place needs a democracy evangelist or missonary its , the congrees of the vain and overspending that is brussels, although i do note that he demolished labours government theory quite well.

28 April 2009 at 10:20  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

"...we need him at Brussels and Strasbourg..."It is good to have irritants such as Hanna and Farage in Brussels & Strasbourg. But don't be deluded ... an MEP has no power whatsoever. They are there to give the illusion of democracy. The main remit of their job is to sign the attendance register.

28 April 2009 at 10:23  
Blogger McKenzie said...

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28 April 2009 at 10:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know little of UK politics, reading only the MSM [a sad farce] or the blogs. As I have not the patience to wade through leftist cant and PC drivel, I tend therefore towards conservative blogs of the right, and they can be an echo chamber.

I do know a little of human nature however. Mr Hannan's forthright and gifted political nous mark him out as a leader. His ideological heresies are therefore very convenient. He will be seen, not as an asset, but a threat.

By and large, political leadership is driven by ego rather than self sacrifice to a cause. The magnificos of all parties spend as much time looking out for the threats to their backs as they do towards their declared opponent's lines.
Spring Conferences come and go and its all very jolly and inspirational,--and safe. [As long as the bear that dances is hobbled.]


28 April 2009 at 10:56  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

This whole situation seems strange. It’s as if Cameron is playing Saul to Hannan’s David.

The European Convention on Human Rights (imported into domestic legislation through the Human Rights Act 1998) is not an EU instrument (Russia is a signatory).

You are right though that we should repeal the 1998 Act; for case law (domestic and the European Court of Human Rights’) permits the trumping of religion by homosexual rights.

28 April 2009 at 11:27  
Anonymous Preacher said...

Your Grace.
The position of the present Prime Minister is obviously untenable, & as such his party is sinking to the depths at an unprecedented speed. It is a foregone conclusion that another party will inherit the crown of office, but we the people need a government that will not only promise to leave the EU, but will deliver on its promise, after all the government now leaving promised us referendums etc but never delivered.
Now is the time for the voters to get a solid guarantee that democracy WILL be restored if the Conservatives win as expected and that Mr Hannan receives a front bench position in the new government.
McKenzie your revelation of Rockefeller & the Bilderbergers should serve as a chilling warning of the future to us all, Thank you.

28 April 2009 at 11:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Cameron's stance on the E.U. may be the result of his efforts to change perceptions of Tories as "the nasty party", but the continuance of that policy will no longer do.
This country needs leaders of integrity and honesty, now, more than ever, and fudge is no longer acceptable.
I will not vote for those who will not admit past error by their predecessors and make the changes which will restore the sovreignty of the Queen in Parliament, (which they have sworn to uphold) and I will encourage others to take the same course.
Taking the moral high ground over a Referendum on E.U. membership while continuing to accept its governance is no longer tenible.

28 April 2009 at 12:58  
Anonymous judith said...

1. Dan will never be on the Front Bench until he becomes a Westminster MP (basic requirement, Your Grace)

2. Despite Dan's espousal of BOO, he was not barred from standing as a Conservative MEP candidate; so much as I would love to see the UK leave the EU tomorrow, I also see that slowly, slowly catchee monkey could well be the order of Mr Cameron's day.

28 April 2009 at 13:27  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

Cameron can get lost.

28 April 2009 at 13:28  
Blogger OldSouth said...

Blessings on Mr. Hannan. I wish we could lease him here in the US, since we seem to utterly lack anyone of his convictions and skills.

Thanks for posting this video--the more who see it around the world, the better.

28 April 2009 at 14:23  
Blogger OldSouth said...

And...why can't the Conservative Party gently show Mr.Cameron the door, or at least give him directions to the back bench?

28 April 2009 at 14:25  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Cameron is a Europhile. A man of seemingly little conviction and even less backbone. Which is why I'll never vote for him.

Maybe Dan Hannan will do us all a favour and split with the Cameronistas to form a new party of real, honest to goodness Conservatives. Them I'd vote for.

28 April 2009 at 14:45  
Blogger Microcosm said...

In this age when politicians and the media insist on making everyone say sorry, I thought the way Hannan points his finger at the Lib/Dems the Labour Party and the electorate but not the Tories, shows his Party is not ready to apologise for their role in the matter. Which has been most shameful.

The electorates votes are not a permit to commit treason, ignorance of the Law is not a defence, this one is going to be down to the people. Politics is a thoroughly corrupted institute.

I doubt the people of the formerly Great Britain have it in them though, I do hope they prove me wrong, don't fall for the class struggle divide and conquer anymore, its just the politics of the enemy.

28 April 2009 at 15:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But let's not overlook the fact that Mr. Hannan, Tory MEP, supports the entry of the 75 million Muslim Turks into the European Union, and ipso facto, the speeding up of the Islamisation of Europe.

28 April 2009 at 15:22  
Blogger McKenzie said...

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28 April 2009 at 15:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Why is a talented politician of learning, knowledge, conviction, eloquence, passion, charisma and such a love of Shakespeare able to address a Conservative Party conference, and yet is barred in perpetuity from serving on the Conservative front bench...'

Because of the media, nothing else.

Ever since the Major cabinet went in different directions, the media is obsessed with 'cabinet splits' and do everything they can to drive wedges between those who disagree.

To my mind, disagreements ARE democracy. Having different views in places of power is vital in a thriving democracy. Just look at the snails and slugs that have littered Labour cabinets over the last 12 years. One or two stood up to be counted (Robin Cook for one), but that's about it.

And all becasue the media would cry 'cabinet split' if you dare to disagree.

28 April 2009 at 16:00  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

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28 April 2009 at 16:09  
Anonymous non mouse said...

I'm impressed with Hannan - might Cameron see him as a threat for Leadership?

Thanks McKenzie for the Rockefeller posting. That goes a long way towards explaining why no sign of this euSSR problem ever surfaces in the US media. Americans I meet all think I'm mad for thinking anything's wrong!!!

28 April 2009 at 17:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace,

Mr Cameron is probably too busy trying to please the likes of his present EUphile frontbenchers... such as Kenneth Clarke.


it could be that Mr. Hannan is a major threat to Mr. Cameron's leadership as Mr Hannan seems to show far more brains than that of Mr Cameron... as Mr Hannan has real policies that he has stressed on his blog for a while now and even in his book (The Plan)..

28 April 2009 at 17:59  
OpenID promiseofavalon said...

I would have thought that neither being an MP or member of the House of Lords was a more significant reason for not being on the front bench.

28 April 2009 at 18:02  
Blogger McKenzie said...

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28 April 2009 at 20:37  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

The main reason Hannan would never be on the Conservative front bench is that he would show Cameron up to be the vaccuous ball of tumbleweed he is.

Hannan's speeches are Churchillian in grandeur, some might say Hitlerian in oratory, but mostly, they hit a sore chord with people. He speaks the truth with the piercing accuracy of an exocet missile.

28 April 2009 at 23:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McKenzie your revelation of Rockefeller & the Bilderbergers should serve as a chilling warning of the future to us all, Thank you.

The really shocking thing about the Bilderberg group, is that all attendees are forbidden to report on the contents of the meetings. Which would not be quite so potentially genocidal in its implications, if it were not for the fact that representatives of our media barons, including Conrad Black, the Barclay Bros, Murdoch and of course the BBC, were not ALWAYS present.

You seriously do not need to be a well read conspiracy realist to understand what is really going on in this world of 'theirs'. You just have to look at the mountains of evidence, and read the texts.

These pathologically dishonest genocidal criminals ego's often get the better of them. They get so over confident and excited by there almost absolute material power, many of the more foolish among them like for example Rockafella, simply can't keep their fat mouths shut.


The real crime against the people is being carried out by our own elected representatives and above all our media, and especially the massively over trusted and funded BBC part of it.

However it is worth remembering, that The Bilderbergers are only bit players, who remain answerable to a much darker power and higher authority. The really big cheeses have never attended a Bilderberg meeting, and never will.


29 April 2009 at 01:30  
Blogger ukipwebmaster said...

UKIP launches European Election campaign video on YouTube:

30 April 2009 at 12:50  

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