Thursday, May 21, 2009

English Democrats - putting England first

This is the sort of moderate, reasonable English nationalism which ought to consign the BNP to Gehenna, where they belong.

The English Democrats note the injustices caused by having a Scottish parliament and a Welsh assembly, but no equivalent legislative body for England. They want 'fair play' in immigration; a reconsideration of the Barnett formula; an English national day and a parliament for what is, after all, the largest country in the United Kingdom. They embrace the diverse races and creeds which now make up England, and wonder why the British establishment proposes no solution to the constitutional imbalance. According to the English Democrats, England 'gets a raw deal'.

Well, it does. But there is nothing in this party political broadcast to which the Conservative Party ought not to be applying its finest minds. It is profoundly saddening when the only solution to chronic political grievances is to found yet another political party to address them. There is nothing to be gained by fracturing and fragmentation, to which there is no logical end.

Is not the Conservative Party the national party? If the Party were truly a 'broad church', it would embrace such as these. For they are manifestly disenfranchised English Conservatives who simply want this blessed plot to be recognised, and the realm acknowledged. And there is no shame in that.


Anonymous Tory Liars an moat pigs said...

Two posts in one day Cranmer. One advocating Israels racist agenda, then this one which deny the British people the right to their to any nationalist sentiment of their own.

Its OK for Israel to wall in its terrorists and slaughter them in acts of genocide, but God forbid the British people should dare to speak out against the genocide taking place here.

If anyone is going to Gehenna, its the main stream parties, it will be your arrogant refusal to open your eyes that will put you in Gehenna. It will be interesting to see what you have to say for your sorry arse on the 5th of June.

21 May 2009 at 10:54  
Blogger Witterings From Witney said...

It would seem that English democrats are basically after exactly what the UK Independence Party proposes in their policy on our Constitution. Please refer to:

21 May 2009 at 11:26  
Blogger Gnostic said...

The problem here, Your Grace, is that the English Democrats have hit the nail squarely on the head. Cameron knows the nail is there and is ignoring it in the hope that it will go away. Will he continue to ignore it when the electorate hammers it through his skull?

21 May 2009 at 11:26  
Anonymous William Faulkner said...

Alas that you should resort to this ...

Goodbye My Lord... all links to your esteemed site, even to those articles worthy of dissemination, have now been removed from mine.

21 May 2009 at 11:40  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

Your Grace must know of course that reducing the inflow will not be enough, closing shut the Borders will not be enough.
It is simple demographics, even if we close the Borders now, we and our children WILL be minorities in our own land under an EU Police state AND sharia Law within 60yrs.
The English Democrats must know this too.

Demographics and TreacheryAnd Just in case there are any Journalists looking in.
Shahid Malik said

21 May 2009 at 12:27  
Blogger John M Ward said...

I saw that election broadcast (as it was classed) but couldn't spot its relevance to either the Euro or council elections, so concluded that they had no real idea what they were doing.

While I have considerable empathy with the idea of an English assembly of some suitable kind, and don't mind the English Democrats as a lobby group, I could never vote for a fringe party at a time of national economic crisis. It needs a party with an overall majority to handle that, despite the Labour, SNP, Green and other loony Lefties in the House.

The crisis must be dealt with first.

21 May 2009 at 13:15  
Anonymous Stephen Gash said...

William Faulkener displayed everything that is wrong with England and the UK, presently. He flounced off like a ballerina with a hole in her tights rather than discuss the massive problems facing us.

I looked at his website and it appears he's UKIP. I went to a UKIP meeting a couple of weeks ago and one of the EU election candidates suggested that Egypt was the kind of muslim country we should have dealings with. I suggest readers watch this extremely unpleasant video to see just how far the Egyptian Government will go to persecute Copts in Egypt. Please note the British media has suppressed this story.

Talking of pigs, UKIP plans to get rid of the Scottish Parliament and devolved assemblies. A pig has more chance of scratching its backside on the Kaaba.

Hazel Blears and the rest of the corrupt pile stinking out Westminster talk about 'extreme' parties gaining at the EU elections. Well the extreme Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem parties will lose, hopefully.

People are so incensed about the expenses issue because of the arrogant and constant 'we know what's best for you' put-down by these corrupt avaricious parties.

The English Democrats want an English Parliament. Any kind of discussion about this has been stifled by the British establishment. That is the problem, people have been disenfranchised and now feel powerless. Criticism of globalism and its concomitant mass migration, is met with attacks of 'racist, xenophobic bigot'.

The Gurkhas are going to be allowed unlimited immigration. The same arguments are being put forward for them as were made for the Eastern Europeans, namely, 'they will be an economic benefit, there will only be a few' etc. Both arguments were destroyed by the results of unchecked immigration.

Gurkhas generally have public support, but that will evaporate when they either take jobs, or claim benefits.

People are now backlashing against the suppression they have experienced over the last 12 years and want a wholesale clearout of the holier-than-thouists rotting our political system.

If the Tories win, they will merely be on probation in England. The English will want to see radical changes in what they actually get out of this effing 'Union'. Cameron whitters on about respecting the Scots. He damned well better make sure he shows some respect for the people who put him in office, the English, instead of taking them for granted.

21 May 2009 at 13:15  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

They embrace the diverse races and creeds which now make up EnglandCranmer, please get real. We can 'play fair' with immigration all we like but England will still become a Muslim country because the Muslims who are already here are outbreeding the rest of the population. What chance England being a land of diverse creeds when the Muslims take over?

The German government estimates that Germany will become a majority Muslim land in 2050. Muslims in Sweden have taken to wearing T-shirts with the year '2030' printed on them, the date some demographers believe Sweden will become Muslim.

And what do we get from you? A 'reconsideration of the Barnett formula; an English national day'. It may not happen in your lifetime, Cranmer, but unless we start expelling Muslims, there will come a time when even our cathedrals will be turned into mosques. Or perhaps the Muslims will just demolish them, like they demolished the Buddhas in Afghanistan.

21 May 2009 at 13:58  
Anonymous William Faulkner said...

Mr Gash... re: your comment:

I concede I flounced, and apologise unreservedly - however, I must protest most strongly at the vicious allegation that I'm UKIP...! Indeed, even a most cursory inspection of my site ( should reveal that I am, in fact, strongly BNP.

I'm aghast...

21 May 2009 at 16:39  
Anonymous Kay said...

Well after watching this little ditty…the solution is easy. Everybody should move to Scotland or Wales! I can’t understand why people from all over the world want to cram themselves into England. I wonder if it’s because everything there is free—oh yes, unless you’re a tax payer of course. As for the Ghurkhas; I’m pleased they have the right to stay in England should they so desire. However, I wonder if Lumley has done them a disservice? There is nothing great about living in Britain in these present times. It is packed to bursting. The infrastructure is on its knees. Housing, health, schools; the roads are dangerous. We can’t put a pin between traffic. And what about all that pollution? Cranmer…I think you’ve been had by the politically correct monster. Beware! Britain needs politicians with guts.

21 May 2009 at 17:19  
Anonymous George Babay said...

Your Grace, its like Monty Python in here today, have you been smokin the Ganja Weed?

21 May 2009 at 17:43  
Blogger Manfarang said...

"everything there is free"
So where are you?

22 May 2009 at 03:27  
Anonymous English Democrat said...

The trouble with UKIP is they're fixated in Europe, which is rather like Iran blaming all its problems on the Great Satan. UKIP simply appeal to that rather juvenile streak in all of us to want to blame others for our own shortcomings. I like the English Democrats, because at least - for all their slight naffness (I don't think the !s were really necessary) - they sound like the authentic voice of ordinary England and not career politicians or crazed Europhobes. I'll vote for them.

22 May 2009 at 08:34  
Blogger Manfarang said...

There are a few rusty bits of a WW1
U-boat on the beach under those cliffs.

22 May 2009 at 11:34  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

You say:

‘But there is nothing in this party political broadcast to which the Conservative Party ought not to be applying its finest minds.’

Could that be because Conservative thinkers are lazy? To the extent that they have not constructed the doctrine that teaches the difference bewteen patriotism and nationalism?

We should all be good patriots.

Of course there may be a deeper reason. There are some who desire to be part of a transnational state.

But for that desire to materilaise the concept of a nation-state must be extingushed.

22 May 2009 at 12:51  
Anonymous Stephen Gash said...

@ Kay

With all due respect, I'm afraid you and people like you are the problem.

You ask why everybody does not move to Scotland and Wales, then bemoan that Britain "is s packed to bursting. The infrastructure is on its knees. Housing, health, schools; the roads are dangerous."No England is the most crowded country in the EU, not Britain. This is why the English Democrats exist. The UK is the smokescreen masking the disaster that has befallen England.

Sarkowzy whines that the UK needs to take its fair share of the 'asylum seeker' burden. England is a quarter the size of France with almost the identical population size.

It is only England that incurs EU fines. Ever noticed that? Single farm payments and 'mismanagement' of EU funds to the reviled regions. England is fined when the EU needs to pay MEPs' expenses.

The single farm payment fine essentially went straight to Greece to compensate it for the fires - in addition to the Solidarity Fund money Greece received.

England never received SF money for floods because no politician could be arsed to apply for it, until last year when money was received after lobbying by English nationalists.

Barroso went to Greece personally after the fires, but never went to Worcestershire or Hull, and certainly never offered any additional funding.

Two-thirds of the SF money for England's floods went straight into the UK Exchecquer enabling it to be carpetbagged to Scotland. No extra funding has reached England for reparations. Incidentally the Czech Republic received 129 million Euros in 2002 for floods and it wasn't even in the EU at the time.

What use are any of the politicians in English constituencies?

People simply must stop talking about Britain and England interchangeably.

22 May 2009 at 14:25  
Anonymous Kay said...

Yes, okay...England is packed to bursting! Scotland and Wales are basically empty. However, I was being sarcastic with regards to the video posted when I said everybody should move to
Scotland and Wales. The video paints such a candyfloss picture. You obviously didn't watch it or you would have got the gist of my post. But thanks for your input. People like me cause problems!! If you knew me you'd know just how wrong you are. Perhaps people like you should stop nit picking at trivialities. Sorry for interchanging I'll be sure to use England and English from now on for the nit pickers. No offence mind:0))

23 May 2009 at 00:52  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You suggested that the Eng Dem's where unhappy tories, i can tell you 1000% that this in not true. Many of us have never or will never vote for them, they stick their noses up in the air and think they have some define right to govern. We will win in the end as we are a coalition of folk all linked together for the love and benefit of England, we can never be brought unlike the Conversatives.
England will show that Lie Labour, Blue Labour and thr Fib Dems are the politics of yesterday and that ENGLISH NATIONALISM is the future.
You've had your day ( a bit like the COE ) so stand aside and let the REAL england people take care of our nation

Ed Abrams

23 May 2009 at 15:45  
Blogger John Morton said...

The Tories are the party of unbridled free trade and globalization.

How the hell could they ever be described as "nationalist" on that basis?

The issue here is ECONOMICS.

29 May 2009 at 15:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

English democrats are unhappy tories!


Does that answer your qustion?

[Do you] deny the British people the right to their to any nationalist sentiment of their own?

I do not care about the british people; only the English people. Ethnic English folk that is.

27 August 2009 at 21:13  

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