Friday, April 30, 2010

The body language points to a Lib-Lab pact

The immediate post-debate polls were unequivocal in their result: David Cameron won.

But these same polling organisations are also united in their view that a hung parliament is the most likely outcome next week, and - let's be honest - whether or not the Conservatives win the most votes or the most seats, it is more likely that a Lib-Lab coalition will try to form a government than a Con-Lib coalition.

Just look at the body language.

While Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown verbally trashed each others' policies and character, they were positively flirting with each other through their bodies.

Only seven per cent of communication is through words: some 38 per cent is intonation, speed and volume of speech; the remaining 55 percent is received via the body.

This peculiar photograph shows both Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown engaged in what movement psychologists refer to as 'mirroring':

We can make others feel comfortable by mirroring or matching their mood. When two people enjoy similar things, they tend to move in sync with each other. This does not mean that every single move they make is exactly the same, but rather that their moods are the same.

When a person finds something in common with another, an instinctive fondness develops between them. This same effect is replicated by mirroring. In mirroring, you need to tune in to the other person’s movements and imitate them, not mimic them. Also, these actions should not be done in the same pace as his/hers, otherwise, the person might take it instead as mockery. Generally, the mirror actions should be done after 10-20 seconds, and must be done naturally. The other purpose of the mirror actions is to show the other person that you accept and respect their views without them noticing it. In effect, he/she will subconsciously see you as an open-minded person.
Essentially, Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown may have engaged in a Benedick and Beatrice game of verbal loathing, but their body langiage indicates that they are flirting with each other; they are bonding.

Mirroring is flattery: we immitate those we like and admire. If someone is doing what we're doing, we feel they're on the same level as us and in the same mood as we are. When body language and speech characteristics are mirrored or synchronized between people, this tends to assist the process of creating and keeping rapport (a mutual feeling of empathy, understanding, trust).

So, since it appears that there is to be a Lib-Lab union, and we know only too well the manifest failings and falsehoods of the Labour half, it is worth focusing for a moment on the Liberal.

Nick Clegg came unequivocally unstuck trying to hide his unpopular policies.

He tried to hide his euro policy. In the debate, Nick Clegg said: ‘No I’m not advocating entry into the euro.’

But last year, he thought the euro was an ‘anchor’. Last year, Nick Clegg told the Financial Times that the euro would ‘anchor’ countries against the ‘vulnerable exposure to international financial markets.’ (The Financial Times, 21 January 2010).

And his manifesto advocates joining the euro. ‘We believe that it is in Britain’s long-term interest to be part of the euro.’ (Liberal Democrat Manifesto 2010, p67).

He tried to hide his policy for an amnesty for 600,000 illegal immigrants. He said: 'I'm not advocating an amnesty…’

But Nick Clegg has previously called his policy a ‘selective amnesty’: 'And most controversially in our proposals…also establishing a selective amnesty, if you like, a route to earned legalisation for the up to 600,000 people who have being living in this country invisibly, illegally, often exploited by unscrupulous employers and others’ (approximately one minute into this video).

And his manifesto promises illegal immigrants an amnesty. ‘We will allow people who have been in Britain without the correct papers for ten years… live here long-term to earn their citizenship.’ (Liberal Democrat Manifesto 2010, page 76).

And he tried to hide the facts about immigration from outside the EU: 'You say numbers, can you now tell me, am I right or wrong that 80 per cent of people who come here come from the European Union…?’

But official statistics show Nick Clegg is completely wrong. In 2008, net foreign migration was 251,000 of which 63,000 or 25 per cent was from the EU. Over the past five years the average has been 31 per cent (see Table 2.01a).

And he tried to hide his benefits policy: ‘We all agree benefits should be conditioned. We all agree they shouldn't be dished out for free if people refuse to take up work.’

But his DWP spokesman says benefits should not be conditional. Asked about the LibDem benefits policy today, their Work and Pensions Spokesman Steve Webb said: ‘[Questioner] “Just a very quick yes, no question. If somebody, long term unemployed, or, or even more recently, turns down the first job offer, will you do what the other two are doing which is remove their benefits after two weeks or after a month?” [Steve Webb]: “No we won’t because what we need to do is look at the demand for work, and there’s not really enough of that...”’ (Daily Politics, BBC 2, 29 April 2010).

And Nick Clegg tried to hide his VAT bombshell on houses: '…the second thing we need to do is invest in the kind of things we need… affordable housing...’

But his manifesto promises to levy VAT on new homes. Liberal Democrats would make it more difficult for first-time buyers to get onto the housing ladder. They want to levy VAT on new homes, which is currently zero-rated: ‘We will equalise VAT on new build and repair.’ (Liberal Democrat Manifesto 2010, page 81).

We all know that Gordon Brown says one thing in public and quite another in private. So, it appears, does Nick Clegg.

It may be a marriage made in heaven. But it be an unendurable purgatory for the nation.


Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

A Lib-Lab it might be.

Well, that will give we Conservatives enough time to conduct our civil war.

And, during that civil war: the man who will rule this country with an iron rod will emerge.

30 April 2010 at 08:14  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

What a load of old bollocks. You are really panicking now.

Are you taking LSD?

30 April 2010 at 08:32  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr Gaites

Be patient and observe as events unfold.

30 April 2010 at 08:38  
Blogger Gnostic said...

If those three clowns are the best this country has to offer then we are all so buggeringly screwed.

Having witnessed that sorry performance last night I haven't changed my mind one iota about placing my cross next to the UKIP candidate. The more I hear from the LibLabCon artists own lying mouths, the stronger my resolve to reject the lot of them grows.

30 April 2010 at 08:42  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Cranmer said...

We all know that Gordon Brown says one thing in public and quite another in private. So, it appears, does Nick Clegg.

And Cameron doesn’t? Come of it. They are politicians!

Martin Weale the Director of the National. Institute of Economic and Social Research stated this morning that to tackle the deficit requires the equivalent of a 6p rise in income tax. The Tories have been as dishonest as the other two and it make the voters angry as they/we are being taken for mugs. (This was witheringly expressed by a member of the Question Time audience last night).

Trying to find crumbs of comfort in Cameron’s improved performance and Clegg’s discomfort is pretty much a waste of time. We are headed for a coalition government and as I said in February, with Vince as chancellor. Osborne can go back to the family wallpaper business and Darling can return to Blackadder.

Bring it on I say, we need something that breaks up the status quo. Apart from the economy there is the full reform of the Lords to complete and perhaps with PR we will see people bothering to vote as in future elections their X will actually count. I’d like to go further, get rid of the monarchy and all the ridiculous dressing up, move out of the Houses of Parliament into a more functional debating chamber and reduce the number of MPs to 350. That’s just for starters!

30 April 2010 at 08:46  
Anonymous pedant said...

A Lib-Lab coalition is no bad thing, Your Grace, for anyone with anything to lose.

The resultant chaos will be so ghastly that interest rates will soar. Good for pensioners, good for savers, good for the decent and prudent, and bad only for the feckless and greedy squandermaniacs who ran us into this trouble.

A Lib-Lab coalition may also be good for the Conservative party. The mess that has to be cleaned up is so appalling that, as the Guv'nor allegedly opined, the party that has to do it will be out for a generation.

There is a leftist, statist majority in Britain of roughly 2 to 1. Given that, any Tory attempt to clear up Labour's vomit can only lead to civil unrest on a Balkan scale.

So let the statists destroy themselves. Let the bulldogs of reality savage their ankles to a bloody pulp. Then let there be another election - and the Tories will be IN for a generation.

30 April 2010 at 09:21  
Blogger D. Singh said...



30 April 2010 at 09:29  
Blogger Botogol said...

I don't think there is a cat's chance of any post election pact. The leader of the party with the most seats will form a minority govt. If he gets voted down then the other guy will have a go.. as a minority govt.

the Libs won't want another election (no way they will do as well second time around) and without that power up their sleeve they are impotent. the largest party will govern, doing deals one vote at a time when they need something specific to go through parliament.

30 April 2010 at 09:30  
Blogger Preacher said...

Your Grace.
The polls only show the results of the three participants on the night, thus they are misleading & renowned for inaccuracy. There are far more than three parties involved in this election & any one could spring a surprise, especially after the track record of spin, dishonesty, lies & disdain that the electorate have endured over the past decade, add to this the anti christian views & laws that have been upheld by the spineless toadying of our so called government to the 'Kingdom' of Euroland & the sucking up to every Tom, Dick & Harry by all three parties & you have a far from certain outcome.
Perhaps the Libs & Labs are courting one another through body language, but like many relationships nowadays it will all end in acrimony. They have all set aside the one true God who gave us our prosperity & pride as nation & followed Idols to their own detriment.

30 April 2010 at 11:16  
Anonymous Hereward said...

"Only seven per cent of communication is through words: some 38 per cent is intonation, speed and volume of speech; the remaining 55 percent is received via the body."

Your Grace, while body language is indeed important, these figures are complete tosh. See:

In other words:

"[A]n entire theory about human communication was based on three women saying one word, followed by two women reading eight words -- reading, not even spontaneously saying -- and two dozen listeners 'imagining' these words being spoken to somebody else, adn speculating about what feeling was being expressed!" (Anne Karpf, The Human Voice, Bloombsury 2006, p. 110.)

Apologies for sounding like a tedious pedant, but must we not stamp out falsehood wherever we find it?

30 April 2010 at 11:17  
Blogger English Viking said...

Jared @ 8:32

I think I might vote for you.

30 April 2010 at 11:35  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh - oh, the hokey-cokey
Left in, right out, rah rah rah.

30 April 2010 at 11:42  
Blogger Ian said...

It doesn't really matter. All 3 socialist leaders have hardly a fag paper between them.

In reality, as mentioned, for the Conservative cause, in the long term a lib-lab pact may well be a good thing.

Let Brown reap his just rewards, although I think he will still be forced out, but when the socialist govt reap the financial tsunami of the next 18 months this will completely destroy any socialist claim to leadership for 25 years.

However what takes its place may well be born of great pain, because the benefit junkies of the UK are not going to go quietly.

Either way, some tough times ahead but we could come out stronger.

The next year and a half will see the real legacy of Browns Britain.

30 April 2010 at 11:43  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Hereward, you are right. It is just garbage.

And Cranny, where did Nick Brown pop up from? Presumably you meant Nick Clegg? A Freudian might think all sorts of unworthy things about you, but, like your nonsense about body language, it would just be fiction.

30 April 2010 at 11:58  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

'Essentially, Nick Brown and Gordon Brown may have engaged in a Benedick and Beatrice game of verbal loathing, but their body langiage [sic] indicates that they are flirting with each other; they are bonding.'

30 April 2010 at 12:00  
Anonymous circus monkey said...

Bring back the "Hully gully"!

30 April 2010 at 12:56  
Anonymous Adrian Peirson said...

Three heads on the same Kommunistik Monster.

If the British people always do what they always did, they'll always get what they always got.

30 April 2010 at 13:28  
Anonymous WannabeAnglican said...

Note that their left legs are jerking.

30 April 2010 at 13:31  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Whichever party wins the election will have to impose spending cuts of such severity that they will find themselves exiled from power for a generation, the governor of the Bank of England has reportedly claimed.—Daily Telegraph

Do you really want your boy to win, Your Grace? Be careful what you wish for.

30 April 2010 at 13:37  
Anonymous Mikec said...

Of course, the poisoned chalice of a hung parliament along with dire economic peril and with no adequate policy except make the 'people' pay, is a very good formula for revolution and then tyranny in due course.....

When the bread disappears out of the shops, will we too be invited to eat cake?

30 April 2010 at 14:18  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

That picture tells us that Clegg and Brown are both lying. They are not comfortable with what they are telling us, Clegg hiding his policies and Brown's convoluted complex speak meaning in reality something totally different. They're both feeling uncomfortable in their subconscious about what they are telling us and that little gesture of lifting the leg is the body's way of saying I want to get away.

I think young Mr Cameron will get in.

30 April 2010 at 14:19  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Gnostic at 08.42 - I fear you are correct! Increasingly it looks likes UKIP for me too.

What a limp, lacklustre lot they were: smarmy schmoozer Clegg; demented fingernail-chewing buffoon Brown, and an ineffectual Cameron.

The only pleasure I got was hearing Clegg lie through his teeth re' immigration and the Euro!
(same lies repeated later by the supposedly 'honest' Vince Cable!)

30 April 2010 at 16:06  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Is Cameron whistling "Bring me sunshine" why Clegg and Brown skip off stage?

Dave does seem the straight man in the act, going off the fudge pact body language, Clegg is in the Brown.

Signed: Phil McCaverty

30 April 2010 at 16:14  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

And, during that civil war: the man who will rule this country with an iron rod will emerge.

30 April 2010 08:14

Have you been reading my script?

As you intimate this is only a matter of when, not if. As well of course one of degree.

It could be more like the last civil-war, then most would care to imagine. Or it could be something akin to the miners strikes of the 70-80s but far more wide-spread. Including this time overt racially motivated violence, along with the rise and rise of highly divisive nationalist groups such as The BNP.

So who will be this man with the Iron Will?

Can't be Hitler, as I presume he is well and truly dead by now. Therefore my own personal best guess at this moment would be David Davis. Who I believe was set up by the establishment to be Cameron's future replacement, should such a thing be required. However we await inevitable as well as well planned for events to unfold.

30 April 2010 at 17:50  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr Atlas Shrugged

Och no man!

There is another 'prophecy':

30 April 2010 at 17:58  
Anonymous Lumberjack said...

Tweedledee, Tweedledum, Tweedledumber, could debate well on into Summer.

But really they're the same--
--they differ only in name.

Oi, this May's gonna be a bummer.

30 April 2010 at 17:59  
Blogger D. Singh said...

The chapter 'URGENT PROPHECY' is for the Judaeo-Christians of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

But it cannot come to pass unless we go down on our knees and pray to God for mercy.

30 April 2010 at 18:01  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

I'll vote for any Party that will get us away from this lunacy.

Restrictions on the payment of welfare benefits to wives of terror suspects imposed by Ed Balls when he was a Treasury minister have been ruled illegal by the European court of justice.

The decision follows a challenge to the regime brought by three women whose husbands appear on a UN list of terror suspects who have been linked to al-Qaida, the Taliban and Osama bin Laden

30 April 2010 at 18:01  
Anonymous IanCad said...

Pedant 09:21
I have to say I think you have it exactly right. Nothing could be worse than a tory victory in its present form.

30 April 2010 at 18:08  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Then, Mr IanCad

It will be a 'Brother, brother' war within the Conservative party.

How I wish, it would not be.

30 April 2010 at 18:10  
Anonymous len said...

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

30 April 2010 at 20:02  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Johnny Rottenborough wrote:
"Do you really want your party to win Your Grace?"
I agree with the question and its implications about a 'generation out of office' given the sheer scale of the debt problem.
If DC wakes up in a week or so as incumbent in No 10 he will know for sure it was a pyrrhic victory of massive proportions.

Instead of lying and deceiving about the national debt and its resolution, he will actually have to address its stark economic realities, and the need for the biggest economic and financial retrogression of modern times. In addition, in spite of his promises there are a few 'unresolvables'

1. the immigration issue which so angers the electorate. (the EU will not budge on the "free" movement of peoples).

2. the continuing democratic deficit in the UK's politics through our central government decisions made in Brussels via Lisbon. (he lied about a referendum and now will have to bear the consequences, unless and until we remove from this parasitic organisation)

3. All the usual weaknesses of government with, at best, a small majority, and subject to the will of other parties he had rather have nothing to do with.

4. Perhaps the worst: the coming wrath of the electorate, and especially the trade unions, when they discover how they have been tricked by the politicians into a false economic security. He will have to pick up the pieces for the rest of his reign.

5. The almost certain (inevitable?) prospect of another election within a year from now with a new Tory leader.

30 April 2010 at 20:04  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr Wood

Your fifth point.

How I wish it were not to be.

30 April 2010 at 20:08  
Anonymous IanCad said...

D. Singh,
No, nothing so drastic I hope! More like the rats abandoning the sinking ship leaving the stalwarts to plug the leaks, raise the sails and get back on course.

30 April 2010 at 20:09  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr IanCad

Brother will oppose brother.

30 April 2010 at 20:11  
Blogger English Viking said...


Spot on, Sir.

O Lord, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth!

30 April 2010 at 20:15  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Well, Lord God, even Mr English Viking loves you. I know he does.

Oh, Lord God, what is to become of us?

For we have forgotten your law.

Is thy mercy not possible?

30 April 2010 at 20:31  
Anonymous Drainrat 725 said...

Atlas Shrugged 17.50

//It could be more like the last civil-war, then most would care to imagine. Or it could be something akin to the miners strikes of the 70-80s but far more wide-spread. Including this time overt racially motivated violence, along with the rise and rise of highly divisive nationalist groups such as The BNP.//

You seem to use the phrase "highly divisive" in the pejorative sense. Unity, is of course, desirable, but are you seriously suggesting that it exists in this country today?

That the country is "highly divided" already is so obvious that it really isn't necessary to support this statement with any argument. The dichotomy is broadly between those with what another poster described as "leftist and statist" tendencies, who believe that equality is the over-riding good that must be pursued at all costs (regardless of merit or levels of personal responsibility) and those who believe that a free society can only function properly if people accept some degree of responsibility for their own actions, and have the freedom, in moral issues, to act according to their own consciences, provided that they remain within the law.

Of course some people will still be financially dependent upon the state, but the "degree of responsibility" to which I refer would surely encompass an acknowledgment by them that such dependence is not an ideal lifestyle choice, and that in a healthy society as many people as possible should be supporting themselves.

One of the reasons that society is divided is precisely because concepts such as national pride have become discredited in the New World Order multicultural environment, in which a society's traditions and cultural heritage are systematically rubbished at every opportunity by the equality protagonists on the Left.

Nationalism is simply a desire by people for a common identity, for the freedom to associate with those who share their cultural heritage, and for a land with proper borders which they can call home. It is a desire that has existed in every society for thousands of years.

There are some on the Left, of course, who believe that Britain has forfeited the right to a national existence because of our past imperialism - in which case they should be honest and tell us straight that we are now simply getting a taste of our own medicine and that we no longer have the right to exist as an independent state. (This of course opens up another argument about the good and bad of past British imperialism).

But until the Left come clean and develop a cogent argument which persuades us that our days of Britishness have deservedly gone for good, and while we (just about) still exist as a sovereign nation, it is, therefore, not the policies of groups like the BNP who try to preserve Britain as an identifiable and distinct entity which are "highly divisive" but the lies and hypocrisy of the Left.

30 April 2010 at 20:56  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Mr Graham Wood @ 20.04 you are quite right. Fortunately the EU has lost momentum now that the German Constitutional Court has ruled that Germany is a sovereign state and not subordinate to the EU. The Eurocrats have no answer to the German revolt, just as managing the Greek debt crisis is beyond their competence. I do believe we will shortly see the EU wither and die as the people of Europe realise that it was all another false promise by the political elite.

As a consequence a nation state such as the UK can now re-assert its own sovereignty and completely ignore the idiotic drivel that emanates from Brussels. The Eurocrats have no power to enforce their diktat and Dave must prove that the EU writ does not run in Britain.

So, Dreadnaught @ 18.01, the Taliban harpies can be both denied succour and expelled without fear of EU sanction.

Look forward to a blue passport again.

30 April 2010 at 23:33  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

not the policies of groups like the BNP who try to preserve Britain as an identifiable and distinct entity which are "highly divisive" but the lies and hypocrisy of the Left.

Agree with most however..

We are where we are because of the highly divisive lies and hypocrisy of the left, right and most especially the middle.

For it is middle that is represented by the bits the establishment selects from both left,and right to do a particular job for them, at any given time and place.

The good bits are as a rule marginalised within both the left and right, either abandoned to rot on the vine, or consecutively flushed down the proverbial toilet sooner or later.

The goods bits generally summed up as being everything the establishment constantly promises to deliver, which is everything we could ever realistically want, but never had any indention of giving us. Wholly because it is the last possible thing THEY would ever want us to obtain, and especially get anywhere near obtaining independent of the establishment.

It is the left as well as the right wing that enables the establishments Eagle to fly so universally over the surface of this planet.

1 May 2010 at 00:19  
Anonymous Drainrat 725 said...

Atlas Shrugged

//We are where we are because of the highly divisive lies and hypocrisy of the left, right and most especially the middle.//

I wouldn't accuse the middle of "lies and hypocrisy" (that is if we're talking about the same "middle").

My idea of the "middle" is what until recently used to be called the silent majority. They may still be a majority (and they're certainly still silent, partly because of a conspiracy by the MSM to ignore them). They are good citizens who work hard, pay their taxes and comply with the law, but take no interest in any political issues whatsoever.

What they're guilty of, IMO, rather than lies and hypocrisy, is the extraordinary complacency and apathy which comes from living in a society which has taken democracy for granted for far too long.

I think you may be right about the "civil unrest" however. Eventually even the people I have described above, goaded beyond endurance as their standards of living plummet despite all their hard work and efforts to provide for themselves and their families, will say "enough is enough" and take to the streets.

When that happens, we really are in deep poo. I have a lot of time for David Davis, but I don't much fancy his chances of sorting that little lot out!

1 May 2010 at 08:49  
Anonymous Y Rhyfelwr Dewr said...

Before he can enter a coalition government, the rules of the Lib Dem party require Nick Clegg to consult the members of the party. It's safe to say that the party's left wing will never countenance a deal with the Tories.

So it's Labour or nothing, which is a terrible place for Clegg to be. His nice & clean image will be irreparably tainted if he props up an exhausted government that came third in the election. He can get around that by insisting that he become prime minister, and then he can spin himself as a Lib Dem government with Labour support. It remains to be seen whether Labour would be willing to accept a subordinate role in government.

But then Clegg will be presiding over a hopelessly divided administration. However disciplined the Lib Dems turn out to be in government (and the Lib Dems are a very broad church whose members actually have little in common with one another), the Labour party is guaranteed to erupt into civil war as soon as the election is over. This is what Labour has always done whenever it's lost power, and Harridan, Balls, Meddlesome and the Millipedes are already at each other's throats. If you think Labour is chaotic now, you ain't seen nothing yet. It won't be a pretty sight.

And Clegg, as prime minister, is the one who will carry the can for all this. Like John Major before him (who, you may remember, was once caught on an open mic commenting that "I lead a coaltion government"), he will spend so much time fire-fighting and keeping his cabinet members off each other, it's doubtful he'll have much time to do any legislating. PR, which certainly will be a more-difficult and time-comsuming goal that a lot of people (perhaps Nick Clegg included) seem to imagine, seems an improbable ambition.

Within a couple of years, the coalition will fall apart and he'll have to call another election; only then, he'll no longer be the squeaky clean new boy, but the young generation's John Major.

His alternative is to go down in history as the Lib Dems' best shot at hold power in a century, but failing. I don't envy him.

1 May 2010 at 10:23  
Anonymous Oswin said...

blue dog at 23.33 Amen to that!

1 May 2010 at 20:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No it's charades.
Nick Leg is speaking.

2 May 2010 at 03:53  

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