Thursday, September 30, 2010

Baroness Warsi: Labour steeped in Asian voter fraud

There is a fairly widespread perception of Sayeeda, Baroness Warsi, now the 'most powerful Muslim in the UK', that she was (over-)promoted by David Cameron 'because of her religion'. One of the contributors to the New Statesman thread on the matter of this article sums it up rather neatly:

"Warsi can shut it too. Never elected as an MP, put into the cabinet not because of her skill, but her race and gender, and on almost every tv appearance, talks nothing but shit. Even against Nick Griffin, she was mediocre."
But whatever the primary cause of her elevation, you have to admire her for going where other politicians would never dare.

She fearlessly confronted her co-religionists in Luton, who cursed her for having the temerity to mention the name of Mohammed and the impudence to refer to the Qur'an because she 'doesn't even look like a Muslim' (ie, no hijab).

And today she raises the thorny topic of election fraud in the Asian community. She suggests that it cost the Conservative Party three seats (actually, it is more than a suggestion: she says that the fraud 'absolutely' cost the Conservative Party three seats).

The BBC have tried to contact the Baroness for more details and clarification, but she 'was not available'.

The 'hideously white' BBC does not, of course, highlight the racial dimension of Baroness Warsi's comments. And nor does Mehdi Hasan in the New Statesman.

So His Grace would like to clarify on Baroness Warsi's behalf.

There is indeed widespread electoral fraud within the Asian community, and postal voting has provided the necessary conditions for this to thrive: indeed, our election system has been variously described as 'third world', that of a 'banana republic', and worse than that of Kenya.

When you canvass in some Asian areas, the male head of the house will be summoned to talk to you (the women are generally not permitted), and it is he who will ensure that the other 27 registered members of his household will vote for the 'right' candidate, which is usually Labour (though not always). Thousands of ballot papers are routinely stolen, and helpfully completed on behalf of those who cannot speak English or even write their names. And for those who prefer to cast their votes in person on the day, they are not infrequently met and greeted by a veritable mafia of 'community leaders' acting as tellers, whose task it is to 'persuade' other members of their community to vote for 'their candidate'

But 'Asian' is too broad a term for this fraud - indeed, it is racist (unless, of course, proffered by another Asian). The fraud is most prevalent among the Pakistani community, which makes it more specifically a question of fraud among Muslims.

His Grace perfectly understands why the Baroness was 'not available' to clarify this.

Mehdi Hasan and the BBC are keen to know which three constituencies were lost to Labour because of this corruption. He will leave it to his wise readers and discerning communicants to assist them with their enquiries.


Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

Baroness Warsi has had her ‘Eureka!’ moment.

She’s discovered the secret of fire!

Now we know why the Conservatives lost the General Election.

UKIP voters: eat your heart out!

30 September 2010 at 10:51  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

You quote a commenter from the New Statesman’s comment thread:

‘Never elected as an MP, put into the cabinet not because of her skill, but her race and gender…’

This potentially brings to the table the debate over ‘positive discrimination’. No longer illegal in the UK under the Equality Act 2010 and behind that the European Court of Human Rights case ‘Belgian Linguistics’ in which the court observed (on the sociological grounds of gender inequality): ‘certain legal inequalities [giving the job to a woman who was equally qualified as the male candidate in the event of a tie-break] tend only to correct factual inequalities.’

Those who support ‘positive discrimination’ often do so to break race monopolies; for example, the City where connections trump relative merit. However, I am pleased to observe that in the medical, legal and accountancy professions merit trumps race.

Those who oppose ‘positive discrimination’ argue that it demeans those for whom it is intended to benefit; an example may be Baroness Warsi on the grounds of race, gender and religion.

In my opinion, ‘positive discrimination’, in the long-run, will delay progress for blacks and women. I vaguely recall Anthony Browne in his work ‘The Retreat of Reason’ presenting the example of a black mayor in California (?) shutting down affirmative action (‘positive discrimination’) for black school children. Within about five years the black pupils realised that they could not rely on a ‘racial discount’ and began competing effectively with their fellow white pupils.

30 September 2010 at 11:36  
Blogger said...

My experience standing as an Independent in Bradford East proved very enlightening. I wrote about it here.

Basically, even leaving aside the issue of fraud (which is almost considered de rigueur) there is also the much more significant effect of the Ummah vote. In essence, having a candidate with name Muhammed Hussain is guaranteed - I reckon - an extra 5-10% of the vote regardless of the party. The Conservative candidate here received quite a remarkable swing, and a fellow Independent who did ZERO campaigning or publicity got more than your average Independent

Got to say, there is a also a small opposite effect. I encountered a few Conservative voters who weren't going to vote conservative this time because of the ethnic/religious background of the candidate.

30 September 2010 at 11:50  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

It beggars belief that postal voting has been allowed at all, except in extreme circumstances. Much as I loath Islam, Warsi has courage and intelligence even if she does talk s**t sometimes. She at least has some grasp of democratic values which is more than can be said for most other so called Muslim community leaders and spokespersons.

30 September 2010 at 12:26  
Anonymous tory boys never grow up said...

"And today she raises the thorny topic of election fraud in the Asian community. She suggests that it cost the Conservative Party three seats (actually, it is more than a suggestion: she says that the fraud 'absolutely' cost the Conservative Party three seats).

The BBC have tried to contact the Baroness for more details and clarification, but she 'was not available'."

So Cranmer belives that it is acceptable behaviour to make serious allegations in public without being willing to provide any supporting evidence?

30 September 2010 at 12:46  
Anonymous tory boys never grow up said...

Of course Tories are above elctoral fraud. Anyone remember this?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone - I think not!

30 September 2010 at 12:50  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

I have just noticed that Geert Wilders Freedom Party has just become part of the ruling Dutch coalition.

30 September 2010 at 13:50  
Anonymous truthseeker said...

Thank you for posting this. Interesting message about Islam here:

30 September 2010 at 13:55  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Thank you for that link Truthseeker

We must make a stand against Islam perhaps that is something that unites secular atheists and Christians. Surely there is an alternative to the EDL or BNP? Unless our supine administrations assert our British values and abandon the multicultural nonsense, I fear not.

What makes a cohesive society are shared values not necessarily a common culture or the same skin colour. Many immigrants are only too pleased to adapt to our way of life whilst still retaining some of their original culture and we (the host nation) can benefit from this. It is a balance but I fear that can never be the case with Islam because it is fundamentally a misogynistic, homophobic and uncompromising belief system that is hell bent on destroying us.

30 September 2010 at 15:10  
Anonymous Simon said...

@Graham Davis - it is not even that postal voting is too easily available. I have frequently turned up to vote without my "polling card" and just said "I am Mr Bloggs of No 6. Bog Lane" and they've given me a ballot paper.

Voting in person shouldn't rely on such a loose form of "identification".

30 September 2010 at 16:17  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Tory Boys Never Grow Up,

Can you read?

Did you even bother to click on any hyperlink before churning out your usual ill-thought, knee-jerk reaction?

30 September 2010 at 17:14  
Blogger tory boys never grow up said...

Archbishop Cranmer

I didn't look at the hyperlink - but just pointing out one exception to your arguments does not validate it I'm afraid. So we now have 11 Tories sent to prison for electoral fraud (courtesy of your additional link), Warsi criticises the Labour Party of electoral fraud without being willing to provide evidence; but you then go onto say that the problem is "usually Labour" without providing any evidence to support such an assertion apart from an unsupported assertion from Baroness Warsi.

I'll leave others to decide who is making ill thought reactions. The LibDems have also had problems on a large scale in Birmingham - which further undermines your view that this is usually a Labour problem. And belive it or not it will not be solved by people trying to making political capital out of it like yourself and Warsi.

30 September 2010 at 19:56  
Anonymous Simon said...

Your Grace

Perhaps you would be able to comment on the Indian Court's decision regarding Ayodhya.

It would provide an excellent opportunity for Mr. Singh to be able to explain why their God(s) are false and his is not.

30 September 2010 at 20:13  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Talk to Pakistani women. It is quite usual for door-stepping to get their voting papers and it is common with all three main parties. In 2005 Bradford even had dead people registered for the all-postal ballot in Northern England - and people living in Pakistan were registered. It is common for more names to be registered than there are rooms in the house.

Electoral fraud is common in Pakistan and is treated as "cultural enrichment" in many Northern cities.

But the Conservatives are not clean - they have had 4 Councillors jailed IN bRadford recently for fraud in 2005

30 September 2010 at 23:02  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Muslims may give the apperance of being the champions of democracy,but once thier numbers increase they will revert to type,such is the case with this "place-ethnic".On which of her houses are we still paying the mortgage?she is as corrupt as the rest of them,to whom fraud is a way of life.

1 October 2010 at 07:42  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

Pakistan and corruption are two words that go together. I have lost count of the amount of times one of these people have been in the media for skullduggery. Why we are continuing to allow these people to populate our country beats the hell out of me. We have enough sinners of our own.

Cue the protests of 'racism' as only white westerners can be thus.

1 October 2010 at 09:06  
Anonymous tory boys never grow up said...

For all those who believe that voter fraud is purely an Asian/Muslim phenomenon within the UK may I suggest that they look at Northern Ireland where the recent introduction of individual voter registration led to a 10% reduction in the electoral roles.

Cranmer's hero Dr Paisley kept quiet about that didn't he?

1 October 2010 at 09:25  
Anonymous len said...

tory boys never grow up.

Grow up!.

1 October 2010 at 10:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me Nick Griffin any day. The ‘Conservatives’ have lost my vote forever. What is it that is ‘conservative’ about them now?

It seems to me we are now living in a virtual one party state. All three main parties are pandering to a certain ‘religion of peace’ for votes. All three parties are pro-EU and pro-immigration.

Democracy in Britain has become an illusion.

1 October 2010 at 12:17  
Blogger Manfarang said...

tory boys
Vote early vote often eh?

1 October 2010 at 12:20  
Blogger Oswin said...

Judge by: ''watch what they do, and not by what they say'' seems the best policy to adopt re' muslims ... but we then have to give credit, when it is due...

2 October 2010 at 16:00  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Yes, Oswin. And Spectemur Agendo as they used to say in the heart (and backbone) of England.

2 October 2010 at 19:59  
Anonymous Dick the Prick said...

The Halifax thing stank.

2 October 2010 at 20:06  

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