Saturday, December 31, 2011

Happy New Year!


His Grace is delighted to announce that he was 100 per cent accurate in all of his predictions for 2011: the coalition survived; there was a LibDem meltdown in May; there were wars and rumours of wars; Israel continued to be portrayed as a pariah state; there were terrorist atrocities; taxes increased; people died; and Jesus didn’t return.

This is one of the advantages of existing incorporeally in the ether. While His Grace does not quite know perfectly or see God face-to-face, the dim reflections in dark mirrors are certainly fewer. In celebration of his astonishing prescience, His Grace offers the following predictions for 2012:

The Coalition will survive another year.

The UK will remain a full and compliant member of the EU.

There will be wars and rumours of war (especially in the Middle East).

The eurozone will split (but the moon won’t turn red).

Meryl Streep will win her third Oscar for The Iron Lady.

She will decline any advances from Mitt Romney to be his running mate.

Barack Obama will win a second term as President of the United States.

Boris Johnson will win a second term as Mayor of London.

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams will retire.

He will be replaced by another lefty-liberal male.

Pope Benedict XVI will criticise humanistic creeds and moral relativism.

A baby will be born to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

It will be male, and brought up in the Church of England.

Israel will continue to be portrayed as a pariah state.

Taxes will rise again and more people will die.

Jesus will not return.

His Grace again makes the last prediction with a high degree of certainty (though not infallibility), for there is still no sign of the Tribulation or Rapture, and it would be a little rude of the Son of God to upstage Her Majesty’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations: a God of love simply wouldn't do that. In addition, for the parousia to occur during the Olympiad would take the shine off all the gold medals, since the Lord is citius, altius and fortius than any of them. And finally, Mr Cameron isn’t quite ready to give a full account to Jesus and place the government upon His shoulders.

His Grace wishes all of his readers and communicants a happy and blessed New Year.

50 Comments:

Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Archbishop. The Inspector’s predictions for North Korea, 2012.

Monday: Population put on 2 week starvation diet to conserve food. Thousands of dissidents interned.
Tuesday: United Nations announces debate on latest North Korean human disaster. Pencilled in for month after next.
Wednesday: Oil discovered off North Korean coast.
Thursday: USA, Canada, EU and even China condemns lack of civil rights in North Korea.
Friday: Tony Blair announces that North Korea has weapons of mass destruction, capable of being deployed within 45 minutes.
Saturday: International war fleets set sail from aforementioned countries. “We owe it to the people of North Korea”, say government spokesman.
Sunday: Oil discovered inside Zimbabwe.

31 December 2011 20:26  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

There is much in common between the events of 2008-2011 and those of 1928-1931, and when I look back at 1932, I fear for what could happen.
See my own blog.
My prediction is that events next year will largely follow those of the thirties with the establishment of a dictatorship in Europe and appeasement by our government.
I am far from optimistic about the future.

31 December 2011 21:00  
Blogger English Viking said...

Hey YG,

Happy new year to you too.

I think you're wrong on the Obama thing. He's worth more dead than alive, just like Luther-King.

Some patsy will pop him soon.

31 December 2011 21:21  
Blogger bluedog said...

Happy New Year, Your Grace, and to all communicants.

'The UK will remain a full and compliant member of the EU.'. Disappointing news.

And what will be the components of the UK, Your Grace?

31 December 2011 22:02  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

My prediction for 2012:

The Church of England will remain seperate from and out of communion with the Catholic Church (Latin rite).

Happy New Year one and all.

31 December 2011 22:08  
Blogger James Reade said...

Matthew 24:36: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father"

So at least one of your "predictions" is essentially pissing into the wind.

Happy New Year!

31 December 2011 22:09  
Blogger Span Ows said...

I think English Viking may have hit one nail on the head re Obama, if he isn't topped I really hope he doesn't win - what a clown he turned out to be.

btw, Jesus has already returned, he's with me now but says he too scared to tell anyone else, he says the shit is piled so much higher than he expected.

31 December 2011 22:13  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Your Grace, with your musings on the second coming, the Inspector remembers a tale...

An Australian, an Irishman and a Scouser are in a bar. They're staring at another man sitting on his own at a table in the corner.

He's so familiar, and not recognising him is driving them mad.

They stare and stare, until suddenly the Irishman twigs: 'My God, it's Jesus!'Sure enough, it is Jesus, nursing a pint.
Thrilled, they send him over a pint of Guinness, a pint of Fosters and a pint of bitter.

Jesus accepts the drinks, smiles over at the three men, and drinks the pints slowly, one after another.

After he's finished the drinks, Jesus approaches the trio.
He reaches for the hand of the Irishman and shakes it, thanking him for the Guinness.
When he lets go, the Irishman gives a cry of amazement: 'My God! The arthritis I've had for 30 years is gone.

It's a miracle!'
Jesus then shakes the Aussie's hand, thanking him for the lager.
As he lets go, the man's eyes widen in shock.
'Strewth mate, the bad back I've had all my life is completely gone! It's A Miracle.'Jesus then approaches the Scouser who says,

'Back off, mate, I'm on disability benefit.

31 December 2011 22:18  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

Inspector

One for the theists and atheists.

Beginnings of mankind

One day, eight-year-old Melissa says to her mother,
"Mummy, I’ve been thinking about us humans and I’m a bit puzzled. How did we humans first appear on Earth?"
"That’s a very good question, darling," her mother replies.
"God made Adam and Eve and they had children and then their children had children, and as a result, mankind began."

Later that day, Melissa asks her father the same question.
"Daddy, how did we humans first appear on earth?"
"That’s an intelligent question, Melissa," he replies.
"Millions of years ago there were monkeys from which, gradually, the human race evolved."

Melissa is confused by this answer and goes back to her mother.
"Mummy," she asks, "how come that you told me the human race was created by God, yet daddy said they developed from monkeys?"
"Well darling, replies her mother, smiling, "the answer is simple. I told you about my side of the family and your father told you about his."

Bom ... bom!

31 December 2011 23:27  
Blogger Mr Integrity said...

Your Grace, I can’t top the Inspectors joke without getting myself into deep water so I will stick to the new year predictions. Good news on the Arch Bishop front. Bad news on his replacement. If he does retire we should all campaign for the front contender from last time, Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali.

31 December 2011 23:36  
Blogger Gnostic said...

The Coalition will survive another year. But will the UK survive another year of the Coagulation?

The UK will remain a full and compliant member of the EU. An absolute if Cast Iron continues his two-faced posturing and fantasy politics.

There will be wars and rumours of war (especially in the Middle East). That's a safe bet if ever I saw one.

The eurozone will split (but the moon won’t turn red). But can you say the same about the streets?

Meryl Streep will win her third Oscar for The Iron Lady. From what I've seen she'll probably deserve it.

She will decline any advances from Mitt Romney to be his running mate. Probably because some of Maggie's shrewdness will have rubbed off on her.

Barack Obama will win a second term as President of the United States. Proving you CAN fool all of the people all of the time.

Boris Johnson will win a second term as Mayor of London. Only because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate...

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams will retire. Hoorah!

He will be replaced by another lefty-liberal male. Boo, hiss!

Pope Benedict XVI will criticise humanistic creeds and moral relativism. Like only a broken record can.

A baby will be born to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge. Who cares?

It will be male, and brought up in the Church of England. For what good it'll do. My advice to them will be to keep it away from the mad grandad in the attic.

Israel will continue to be portrayed as a pariah state. People like Al Jabeeba and the mad Professor Stupid-Pratt will see to that.

Taxes will rise again and more people will die. Even I'd put money on that one...

Jesus will not return. That'll teach him not to put any faith in his SatNav.

Your Grace, I hope some of your predictions are wrong. However, I wish you and all your communicants a decent New Year. Grab it while you can.

31 December 2011 23:48  
Blogger non mouse said...

Happy New Year to Your Grace and all Communicants - as Gnostic has suggested, let's make the most of what good we get.

I fear YG's predictions are near the mark. Indeed, the Lord will not return until, for example, we all have the Mark of the Beast upon us - and probably until most of us have fled for the hills.

But, in view of other predictions here, maybe the Day is not so distant... nuclear war will have us seeking shelter in remote places. Furthermore, the euSSR forces the Mark of the Beast on our DLicense pictures. Yes, the time could be approaching; maybe it's "later than we think."

1 January 2012 01:03  
Blogger outsider said...

Happy New Year.
I trust that Your Grace will have the strength and determination to continue his good work through 2012.
I fear that we may lose another newspaper but hope, if that must happen, that it will only be one that carries no news.
I wish that our teams could enter the Olympics and the European Cup without being undermined in advance by scandalous revelations but predict that we shall again manage to shoot ourselves in the foot.

1 January 2012 01:20  
Blogger outsider said...

In response to Mr Integrity, I wish that this time, even at this late hour, the Anglican Communion could elect Archbishop Tutu as its own equivalent of Pope John.

1 January 2012 01:25  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

outsider

The Church of England only 'elects' its Archbishop after the Prime Minister tells the Queen who it is to be. Miraculously, the Bishops then gather in prayer, and Holy Spirit then confirms the choice.

1 January 2012 02:31  
Blogger Manfarang said...

We shouldn't forget John Frum we will return on February 15th.
Happy New Year to you all.

1 January 2012 04:09  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Doody

Did you know that the Roman Catholic church only 'elects' its Pope after the black pope gives the cardinals the 'heads up' on who it is to be.

A new pope is elected when the sitting pope dies, resigns or is 'deposed'.

After each vote, they burn the ballots and add special chemicals to make the smoke white or black:

Black smoke means no new pope yet (keep up the charade that the HS has not made a definitive choice yet, He's still casting down lots on Heaven's floor)
White smoke announces the election of a new pope (At Last...The people have a pope the real pope knows best suits them).

The cardinals may even elect any baptized male they wish (Blair, you cunning rascal you). There have been occasions in the past where they have elected a layman. (Ooooh dear!. A precedent is all Tony needs to be made aware of, innit!)After their election, the layman has to be ordained priest and bishop.
They ask the one elected if he accepts (Is the candidate a two faced narcisstic shyster? Job done!). The moment he accepts, he is pope. (A further money making continuance for an autobiography..A journey from Prime Minister to Pope Tone I)

The pope chooses his "Papal" name. You know what he is going to say, 'the People's Pope'! What!


A Happy New Year to you, one and all.

Ernsty

1 January 2012 04:52  
Blogger Larks Tongues in Aspic said...

You forgot about bears shitting in the woods (again).

Happy New Year!

1 January 2012 09:12  
Blogger Preacher said...

Nice to see you back Ernst. Hope you had a nice Christmas break.

To one & all & especially our genial host.

HAPPINESS & JOYOUS NEW YEAR. FROM PREACHER.

MARANATHA.

1 January 2012 10:04  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr Ernst @ 04.25, a fascinating thought, Pope Tone the First! At least with his track record there no chance of a paedophile scandal. As for McBroon, son of the Manse, he would never take a run at the papacy. So we should be thankful for that small mercy.

On the other hand, what about communicant Dodo? He seems to move in the right circles and certainly has his dogma and catechism off pat. Can't really think of a better choice after B16 pops his clogs.

1 January 2012 11:15  
Blogger Ariadne said...

Happy New Year to all and here is an article for those who are interested in Israel.

It's a review of 2011 in Israel and the blogger is forward-looking. Yaacov Lozowick.

1 January 2012 11:24  
Blogger len said...

Well, Old year gone, New year started and the question I would like to ask has anyone changed their position as regards their own particular brand of religion or their trust in the ability of men to rectify the problems of this World?.
Has all this blogging and stating ones position( ad infinitum) actually changed anything?.Are Catholics, Anglicans, Atheists, still firmly entrenched or has anyone had a revelation of the truth of the Gospel?.
The Apostle Paul thought he had the 'right religion' and his doctrines all sorted but God literally had to knock him to the ground to make him see sense.

Perhaps that is the only way God can shake us out of our complacency and I think there will be a 'whole lot of shaking going on' during this coming Year.

'For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.' (Haggai 2:6-7)

1 January 2012 11:49  
Blogger Albert said...

Barack Obama will win a second term as President of the United States.

Is the American political scene really that bad? Viewed from an international point of view, Obama is a vacuum. Most of time it feels like there isn't an American president. Surely someone can challenge him?

1 January 2012 11:56  
Blogger Albert said...

Has all this blogging and stating ones position( ad infinitum) actually changed anything?.Are Catholics, Anglicans, Atheists, still firmly entrenched or has anyone had a revelation of the truth of the Gospel?.
The Apostle Paul thought he had the 'right religion' and his doctrines all sorted but God literally had to knock him to the ground to make him see sense.


Oh Len!

1 January 2012 12:07  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

Albert said ...
Oh Len!

Indeed.

Ernie
What's up? Catholicism and the protection afforded it by the Holy Spirit, seems to disturb you. I notice you made no comment of the Church of England's 'election' (Ahem) methods.

Repeat after me:
The Catholic Church is not trying to rule the world.
The Catholic Church is not an instrument of the Anti-Christ.


blue dog said ...
" ... what about communicant Dodo? ... Can't really think of a better choice after B16 pops his clogs."
Not the path for me. Whatever our 'friend' and resident 'expert' Ernie the Milkman claims, the Catholic Church chooses Peter's successor under God's guidance.

Some people stubbornly insist on living in the past - dementia does that!

1 January 2012 13:19  
Blogger len said...

Dodo, I suggest you try and understand the ambitions and the objectives of those who are behind Catholicism.

1 January 2012 14:01  
Blogger len said...

In the document, Dominus Iesus (September 5th 2000), footnote 51 refers to a decree which states,

“We declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff.”6

The mind of Rome is thus expressed in her official decrees. Once the Protestant nations are committed to the emerging European superstate and its Constitution, the Vatican’s plan to once again “Christianize”(that is make into 'good Catholics' under the Power of the Roman Church and subject to the Pope )the European Union will be implemented. As described by the London Sunday Telegraph, “The Pope is calmly preparing to assume the mantle which he solemnly believes to be his Divine Right - that of new Holy Roman Emperor, reigning from the Urals to the Atlantic.”
...............
Try to 'keep up'Dodo that is unless you are practising a Catholic equivalent of 'Taquia?'

1 January 2012 14:13  
Blogger Albert said...

Once the Protestant nations are committed to the emerging European superstate and its Constitution, the Vatican’s plan to once again “Christianize”(that is make into 'good Catholics' under the Power of the Roman Church and subject to the Pope )the European Union will be implemented.

If only!

1 January 2012 14:32  
Blogger Dick the Prick said...

Happy New Year Your Grace, hope it's a good one.

1 January 2012 15:18  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len
You really should learn more about that which you seek to criticise.

Catholic teaching is simple really and always has been. The particular document to which you refer has been attacked by 'Traditionalist Catholics' as well as 'Modernist Catholics'. Yet it restates consistent teaching.

The Catholic Church believes Christ is the only road to salvation, and the Church and Christ form "a single whole" . Just as there is one Christ, so there exists a single Body of Christ, a single Bride of Christ: "a single Catholic and apostolic Church". Outside of the mediation of the Church, all others, including the "followers of other religions objectively speaking are in a gravely deficient condition ... Thus we must believe in no one God: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit ... (because of) ... the definitive and complete character of the revelation of Jesus Christ".

Religious people of the world, including those belonging to religions much more ancient than our Christianity, possess no "theological faith", only "beliefs", with doctrines not of the Spirit, but something "which is religious experience still in search of the absolute truth".

Similarly, Orthodox Churches, might have a hierarchy and the Eucharist, they can only be known as "particular churches", without full communion, for they do not accept the primacy of the Pope. And Evangelical churches, those who came forth from the Reformation as well as those who came forth afterwards, are not "churches in the proper sense", but are "separated communities ... whose efficacy derives from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church".

"We believe that this one true religion continues to exist in the Catholic and Apostolic Church, to which the Lord Jesus entrusted the task of spreading it among all people". Only in the Catholic Church exists the truth, outside of this there is the real, objective risk of damnation.

1 January 2012 15:25  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Arch villain Blofeld launches 2012 with an attack on Roman Catholicism – what a hound you are Sir !

By the way, any relation to Henry Blofeld who appeared on Hootenanny early this morning – a younger stupid ignorant brother perhaps ?

1 January 2012 15:27  
Blogger len said...

Dodo ,


Catholicism a simple doctrine?.

Good to see you haven`t lost your sense of humour......yet.

1 January 2012 16:00  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

What I said was:

" Catholic teaching is simple really and always has been."

1 January 2012 16:12  
Blogger English Viking said...

Dodo,

Correct, catlick teaching is simplicity itself - Pay the Pope and everyhang gonna be al'right.

A pretty close estimation, don't you think?

1 January 2012 16:53  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

Viking
Not quite what I meant.

Christ is the only road to salvation, and the Catholic Church and Christ form "a single whole". Just as there is one Christ, so there exists a single Body of Christ, a single Bride of Christ: "a single Catholic and apostolic Church".

"We believe that this one true religion continues to exist in the Catholic and Apostolic Church, to which the Lord Jesus entrusted the task of spreading it among all people".

Only in the Catholic Church exists the truth, outside of this there is the real, objective risk of damnation.

Its not about "everyhang gonna be al'right", it may well not be - who can tell? Indeed, Scripture suggests not in purely human termsbefore Christ's return. However, salvation is through faith in Christ and understanding and following His message through the Catholic Church.

It's not about a single man, the Pope. It is about the office he holds as the successor of Peter.

1 January 2012 17:53  
Blogger David B said...

Dodo, sometimes I wonder if you are a Poe. Sadly, though, I fear not.

David B

1 January 2012 22:08  
Blogger len said...

Dodo, When James and John were debating about which would be greater, Jesus scolded them, saying that the greatest on earth will be least in Heaven. That means that aspiring to earthly greatness (like attaining the position of pope) is a sign of wanting personal glory, and not the glory of Christ, to go forth. Peter would never have accepted such an office.
There are not any passages that support the Roman Catholic teaching of the supremecy of Rome, the divine leadership of Peter, the office of the papacy, the infallibility of it's head, or the succession of divine authority. That teaching does not exist in Scripture.

1 January 2012 23:19  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

What a crock!

Have you never read:
Matt. 16:18; Matt. 16:19; Matt. 18:17-18; Matt. 28:20; Cor. 3:11; Eph. 2:20; 1 Pet. 2:–6; or Rev. 21:14?

There's plenty of other scripture too.

2 January 2012 03:49  
Blogger len said...

The scriptures actually work against you Dodo have you read them?.

Catholicism proves itself to be a false religion because it goes against the very scriptures you present, well those that are relevant!. Some of the scriptures you present are not relevant at all!.

Time to call Albert?.

2 January 2012 08:34  
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2 January 2012 08:34  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

Never mind the assertions and snide comments, just answer scripture.

2 January 2012 13:22  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

Matt. 28:19; Mark 16:15 - those that preached the Gospel to all creation but did not write the Gospel were not less obedient to Jesus, or their teachings less important.

Matt. 28:20 - "observe ALL I have commanded".

John 20:30; 21:25, not ALL Jesus taught is in Scripture.

Mark 16:15 - Jesus commands the apostles to "preach," not write, and only three apostles wrote. There is no evidence in the Bible or elsewhere that Jesus intended the Bible to be sole authority of the Christian faith.

Luke 1:1-4 - Luke acknowledges that the faithful have already received the teachings of Christ, and is writing his Gospel only so that they "realize the certainty of the teachings you have received." Luke writes to verify the oral tradition they already received.

John 20:30; 21:25 - Jesus did many other things not written in the Scriptures.

Acts 8:30-31; Heb. 5:12 - these verses show that we need help in interpreting the Scriptures.

Acts 15:1-14 – Peter resolves the Church’s first doctrinal issue regarding circumcision without referring to Scriptures.

Acts 17:28 – Paul quotes the writings of the pagan poets when he taught at the Aeropagus. Thus, Paul appeals to sources outside of Scripture to teach about God.

1 Cor. 5:9-11 - shows that a prior letter written to Corinth is equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon.

1 Cor. 11:2 - Paul commends the faithful to obey apostolic tradition.

Phil. 4:9 - Paul says that what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do.

Col. 4:16 - shows that a prior letter written to Laodicea is equally authoritative but not part of the New Testament canon.

1 Thess. 2:13 – Paul says, “when you received the word of God, which you heard from us..” Oral revelation was being given to them.

1 Thess. 3:10 - Paul wants to see the Thessalonians face to face and supply what is lacking. His letter is not enough.

2 Thess. 2:14 - Paul says that God has called us "through our Gospel." What is the fullness of the Gospel?

2 Thess. 2:15 - the fullness of the Gospel is the apostolic tradition which includes either teaching by word of mouth or by letter.

2 Thess 3:6 - Paul instructs us to obey apostolic tradition.

1 Tim. 3:14-15 - Paul prefers to speak and not write.

2 Tim. 2:2 - Paul says apostolic tradition is passed on to future generations, but says nothing about apostolic traditions being committed to the Bible.

2 Tim. 3:14 - continue in what you have learned and believed knowing from whom you learned it. Again, this refers to tradition.

2 Peter 1:20 - interpreting Scripture is not a matter of one's own private interpretation. Therefore, it must be a matter of "public" interpretation of the Church. Private judgment leads to divisions.

2 Peter 3:15-16 - Peter says Paul's letters are inspired, but not all his letters are in the New Testament canon. See, for example, 1 Cor. 5:9-10; Col. 4:16. Also, Peter's use of the word "ignorant" means unschooled, which presupposes the requirement of oral apostolic instruction.

2 Peter 3:16 - the Scriptures are difficult to understand and can be distorted by the ignorant to their destruction. God did not guarantee the Holy Spirit would lead each of us to infallibly interpret the Scriptures.

1 John 4:1 - again, God instructs us to test all things, test all spirits. God's Word is not always obvious.

Gen. to Rev. - Knowing what books belong in the Bible is necessary for our salvation. However, because the Bible has no "inspired contents page," you must look outside the Bible to see how its books were selected.

The canon of Scripture is a Revelation from God which is necessary for our salvation, and which comes from outside the Bible. This Revelation was given by God to the Catholic Church.

2 January 2012 14:05  
Blogger len said...

Dodo, so we are again at who interprets scripture;

The Pharisee’s claimed they alone had the right to interpret and enforce scripture, and that is when everything went wrong. What the Catholic Church has done is require its members to listen to the Church who will tell them what they are to follow and what the word says. They then become the sole interpreter of what God said. On the contrary Jesus said He would give each believer the Holy Spirit who is the author of the word, to have us understand what was written (Jn. 2:20-21).

2 January 2012 17:58  
Blogger len said...

What Catholics have done is made the word of man equal to the Word of God.This is the ultimate heresy.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees not because they didn’t understand tradition, but for not accepting sola Scriptura. They negated the final authority the Word of God by their religious traditions. Their tradition made the word of God to have no effect. (Mk.7) They stopped the people from reading the word and had them obey their traditions instead. The Bible emphatically condemns the use of tradition as a source of authority because whenever tradition is set up alongside of Scripture, it eventually competes for the greater position and replaces it. It then is used to reinterpret Scripture. This is what happened to Judaism in the days of Christ, and this is what has happened in the Roman Catholic Church. The Bible no longer was their source for God. Mans opinions eventually replaced the apostles teachings, rituals replaced the substance and darkness fell over the land. No one can trace oral tradition back to its source, so we can never be sure of its accuracy. Oral tradition becomes subject to the very leaders that gave it and we have to take their word for its accuracy.

The Catholic Church has made error 'infallible'which cuts them off from the Gospel.

2 January 2012 18:06  
Blogger len said...

The Catholic church claims to have given the World the Bible,to have sole claim to salvation, and have 'absolute authority' over theology doctrines, traditions etc if that is so why does God`s Word (The Bible)contradict Catholicism?

IF the Bible is a Catholic book,

1. Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6).
2. Why does it teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28).
3. Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).
4. Why does it condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11).
5. Why does it teach that all Christians are saints? (1 Cor. 1:2).
6. Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5).
7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12).
8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9).
9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11).
10. Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5).
11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5).
12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke 22:24-27).
13. Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? (Luke 16:26).
14. Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgences, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church?

2 January 2012 18:27  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

Do you intend to address the scriptural points I have made?

How you can seriously compare the Pharissess with Catholicism is beyond me. The Jews Jesus was attacking were those who had raised oral tradition and rabbinic teaching above the Torah. The teachings of the Rabbis were held to be more authoritive that the Law given directly by God to Moses. You do know this and the status of the Talmud and Kaballah even today and what they contain?

The difference is that the New Testament makes no claims to be exclusive. Its books were not agreed for 300 yers! It was not 'given' on Mount Sinai as was the Torah. Indeed as the passages I've cited show, the Gospel of Jesus started with oral preaching and teaching and scripture itself says that this oral as well as the written traditions and teachings should be followed.

2 January 2012 19:16  
Blogger len said...

Dodo,
The whole of the Bible is the testimony of Jesus each part interlinked.

You either accept the Word of God or you don`t...your choice.

3 January 2012 19:13  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len

No answer then? Thought not.

And do be sensible. Jesus established a New Covenant and fulfilled the Law and the Prophets. Are you required to be curcumcised? To refrain from eating meat with blood? To keep the original Sabbath?

3 January 2012 20:04  
Blogger len said...

Dodo, you seem to flying off at a tangent here(again).You seem to be preaching licence to do whatever one feels like?.The Commandments still stand but Catholics have negated the second one in favour of their' traditions'.Just one example.

If you want to follow Catholicism and its un- scriptural practices then that`s your lookout but don`t pretend it`s Christian or the Gospel.

If your`e not born again then all you have is a man made, man orientated religion,if your`e happy with that OK but don`t expect me to agree with your counterfeit 'religion'.

I really do think I must stop responding to your comments. 'Don't answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.'(Proverbs 26:4)

4 January 2012 17:47  
Blogger Dodo the Katholikos Dude said...

len said ...
"I really do think I must stop responding to your comments."

That's the problem, you never really do respond, do you? Rather you side-step comments and fall back on a 'counterfeit church' argument.

"You either accept the Word of God or you don`t...your choice."
I completely agree. I just don't accept your misrepresentation of it or the licence you give to any individual to interpret it as s/he choses.

5 January 2012 18:04  

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